Infantry Combat Medics in Europe, 1944-45 (Palgrave Pivot)

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The medic can freely choose to fire first, use a crew served weapon, and not have to worry about any violations besides the ones that apply to his fellow soldiers. The medic merely loses his Geneva status and is treated like his fellow soldiers when he makes this decision.

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The 9mm pistol is generally given to medics not because it's a 'defensive weapon', but because it can easily be used with one hand if the medic must maintain pressure on a wound or perform some other medical procedure that cannot be interrupted without destabilizing the patient further. Rifles have probably been used more offensively than any other weapon since gunpowder was first used in war. Medics are given rifles so they have similar training and armaments to the line units they may be assigned to. The rumor of the 'ma deuce' and the MK only being able to be used on equipment would ban their use in the Afghan and Iraqi conflicts.

Machine guns have always been understood to have been designed primarily as an anti-personnel weapon that can also take out light vehicles and aircraft. As long as the weapon is not designed to cause 'undue suffering', it can be fired on an enemy combatant. Perhaps someone should change "Nazi" to "German". Not all Germans were Nazis, and this is supposed to be a neutral point-of-view encyclopedia. How much they get paid?

I think the statement regarding Soviet forces being ordered to target equpment with the red cross needs some sort of attribution or citation. Mike McGregor Can , 21 February UTC the statement about the japanese targeting medics could probably also benifit from some backing up. The japanese statement is true. Which current armed forces equip medics with submachine guns? Removed web address for a clotting agent as it seemed to be more of an advert This is a bad picture for the article because it does not have clear insignia.

A medic is authorized to use a personal weapon to defend himself and his patients. Personal defense weapons in the US are basically the M9 and M variants. Something like the M SAW, or crew served weapons are "offensive. Weapons and uniforms are equipment though Seem vague? I think so too.

Most Whiskey's are not trained to fire any weapon with a higher caliber than a 7. We are supposed to only return fire to protect ourselves and our patients. Any soldier that is capable of returning fire should do so and usually will. In the current war situation, the enemy has been known to target a medical vehicle knowing that we are lightly armed and have no 50 cal. The new enemy has no regard for the Geneva Convention and usually does not honor it. I'd disagree with the notion that medics are trained not to fire back.

My training from Basic in to Bagram in was to ensure fire superiority and either slap on a tourniquet or at least make sure the wounded soldier was putting it on themselves. The reasoning behind this was that taking an additional rifle out of the fight increased the likelihood that the enemy would injure or kill another soldier which would degrade the situation even further. Additionally, you're not going to be doing any major medical treatment while under fire without exposing yourself. Helping to fight the enemy allows a medic to more quickly reach the point where either the enemy retreats or his element can get to an area where we can do more in depth treatment.

My neighbor, an Army seargent, claims that they're doing away with medics in the combat field.

Soldiers are instructed to ask a wounded soldier "You OK? COuld somebody help verify this so we can add it to this article? This right here is ludacris I don't who you spoke to but that is so wrong. I'm a medic in the army and we aren't going anywhere.


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  • That's only partially true. It's a three part system. Part 1 Shoot, gain tactical fire superiority. Part 3 More involved care. Basically, if the situation permits the medic will spend time on the patient to correct the issue, but if the patient can do something on his own, the medic can still fire down range in that effort to gain fire superiority. Their primary mission is to continue to engage the enemy and later perform medical duties. Combat Medics have a primary duty to assist wounded soldiers. Also phase 1 of TC3 is engaging the enemy and applying a tourniquet.

    Phase 2 involves all other medical procedures. I work for a defense contractor teaching CLS. Hi my name is LaShelle. I'm 17 yrs old and a senior. I was doing a research project and came across this. I'm thinkin about becoming a combat medic and would like to know some more about it. If any of ou can let me know what experiences I would have or what exactly I'd be doing, that'd be great!

    What do you want to know? I love being a medic. My soldiers love me, mainly because I dispense medications and I am the one that takes care of them when they are hurt, so they take care of me. But it isn't all great. My aidbag is about 45 lbs, so that's 45lbs more you will have to carry than anybody else. But that is the only drawback. I can also help you with any information you may want about being a medic. I've been on three combat rotations and love my job.

    As SoldierMedic said they are one or two draw backs but mostly perks and it takes a certain personality to stay in this field. Christopher Speer is described as "leading a squad assigned the task of going through the ruins, looking for weapons, and evidence of terrorism", and also as "a medic in an American special forces unit". In my ignorance, this use of medic seems possibly at odds with the picture painted in Combat medic article.

    Maybe we could have some comparisons of various medics to civilian occupations - EMT , Paramedic etc.

    In the 68W article it lists the specific skill identifiers for American Combat Medics. Combat medics can also be civilian licensed LPN's with an identifier of M6.


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    • I would stress however that care should be exercised when comparing them so that people do not get the idea that they are interchangeable. After I graduated from nursing school I wished to maintain my old MOS and therefore though I was civilian licensed nurse in my reserve unit I could not perform any medic duties.

      Infantry Combat Medics in Europe, 1944 45 Palgrave Pivot

      However due to increased pressure many more of the Army medical programs are requiring civilian certification so those things would carry over to the civilian world. If you look at the job description of a 68W and a Tactical Paramedic, you will see they are basically the same job. I am advocating for the use of former 68W with current certification to be crossed over into such civilian placements.

      Texdoc41 talk , 11 November UTC. The MOS tag did change as of 1 October All 91W were to given a time frame to complete the requirements for the new identifier. I added a confusing tag. I believe the third paragraph here contradicts the first two. The third paragraph is about non-combatant medics.

      It begins:. In most armies, medics wear specific insignia, with a prominent Red Cross on a white background. Islamic countries use a red crescent instead while Israeli medics wear the Magen David Adom a red star of David on a white background. In theory, medics are considered to be given the Geneva coverage applied to medical personnel. In practice, any line medic is going to willingly disregard these protections because they will not be given to him by today's enemy and he is more effective returning fire even or especially if he has no patient to protect. Remember that the Geneva Conventions stipulate that the protections are theirs to lose based on their choices on the battlefield.

      Medics do not break any treaties by attacking the enemy, they merely void protections that most likely wouldn't be wouldn't be honored. We take part in offensive operations, we train with and fire crew served weapons if needed, and we'll do this whether a soldier is injured or not. There are many references to "stretcher bearer" or "stretcher-bearer", which I'm not convinced is correct usage!

      Currently, two pages point to stretcher bearer , and two to stretcher-bearer. Many other potential links exist within article text. Text [S.

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